Originally by: Samroski

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Originally by: CCP Pann

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the conversation I hope to have with you.

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A conversation has 2 sides. I want to say a number of things about your shameless attempt at greed but it is useless, seeing your 5 pathetic and uninformative responses to >4000 comments in this thread.

I suggest you muster courage and actually attempt to have this "conversation".

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Originally by: Violet Vayu

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Now that this page has reached over 100 pages in less than 24hrs hours I hope CCP is starting to get the clue.

My issues with this expansion:
1. Stealth scanning change - please explain the reason the complete formula needed to be changed. Beyond we wanted to waste more of your time by forcing you to launch more probes. You have reduced the value of skills by allowing this..... you can now scan the most difficult sites with low level skills its most like one of your noob devs moved into a wh or something.

2. The game I choose to play is about space ships, not walking around in stations. If CCP thinks this is the future sell that as a seperate experience - I'm not interested.

3. Impress your valued customers with complete expansions:
A. Walking in station (really just cq), do we have to buy the running ability? really does not do much for us even if it is the foundation for future
B. You remodeled one hull please don't strain yourselves, one race would have been a better good faith attempt, on the plus side the artist (team) for the new maller needs a pat on the back now lock them in the studio and have food delivered they have a lot more to go....

4. New store, new Aur, pitiful amount of items, no player ability to design custom items ( just an idea but if your going to do it make a sandbox) what's the point..... it does not improve my social interaction with friends.

5. Not related to expansion but future of eve. What in the world were you thinking when you named an internal memo/magazine GREED IS GOOD even us rabid American capitalist knows better than to do that. Some of the stuff in it is okay you guys need to make money most of us understand that, we just feel you using us to solely developed your other games. Walking in stations is not for eve is beta testing for dust and WoD 3d engines just admit it and throw it in as an extra to a real spaceship related expansion...

3 accounts here one post

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Originally by: Azelor Delaria

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I've stayed quiet on this fiasco for long enough. I managed to see one of the CCP call me stupid.

In high school, I was called "stupid", not because I had a learning disability, but because I lacked common sense.

In boot camp I was called "stupid". As enlisted, I was called it. Now here I am, at 25-years-old, a full Captain in the United States Marine Corps. Who's stupid?

I expect a petulant child to come along and call someone he doesn't like a name. But for a company who needs us to survive saying that we are "stupid" for not falling into lock-step and doing exactly as we are told? We decide to use these forums and come together as a community, which is what you wanted since day 1 (at least your claim).

We come together, as a community. This is the first time I think I have honestly see griefers and carebears come together and say, "WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU???"

World of Warcraft has an RMT system. However, those don't give you benefits in game. You get a sparkly pony (YAY!!!!!!!!), or a small companion animal. There is nothing that you can buy to give you a massive advantage. Everything is gained through your own actions. Say what you will, but at least WoW hasn't fallen to your level. Then again, they have a solid fanbase that hasn't been constantly **** on by their developers.

How many times have you lied to this community? How many times have we been told, "We are looking to build a relationship with you. We want you to trust us!" To be honest, the only relationship you have been consistent in giving is (not really) surprise buttsex.

We want things fixed in this game. We want issues that have been brought up for years addressed. We want you to stop with this Incarna BS and fix something, like hybrids.

AND WE WANT YOU TO KEEP YOUR GODDAMN WORD.

Tell me: if you lose EVE Online, what do you have? DUST? Wasn't that supposed to be set in the EVE universe? So what happens if EVE dies?

And what stops your competitors from pointing to EVE and saying, "Do you really want to play that when it's destined to fail?"

What about WoD? Your competitors are being given all the ammo they need here.

You have decisions to make, and you have something you have to do. However, integrity is like virginity: once you lose it, you can never get it back. At this point, you have to work for our trust. You have to not only support this game and show us it's still worth playing, but also that you as a company and as people are deserving of our respect and money.

What you do speaks so loudly that what you say I can not hear.

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